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welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast

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yes it's the skeptic zone podcast

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episode number 692

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for the 9th of january 2022 richard

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saunders coming to you from sydney

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australia

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a very sort of um

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muggy overcast lots of thunderstorms

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lately sydney australia and where are

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those skeptics owned cats henrietta and

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more they're not in the studio today

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it's a bit too

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lazing around on top of things you know

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how it is you go to your favorite couch

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you lie down

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want to read a book or something and

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suddenly bam

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there's a cat

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on your lap or one just outside the door

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or cat owners know what i mean

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coming up on this week's show not so

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many cats

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we're going to be playing

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skeptical trivia something different to

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sort of help start off this year in

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january

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when else does a year start

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30 skeptical trivia questions we did

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this a few nights ago here

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for sydney skeptics in the pub was a

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great success online lots of things are

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online so to start this week's show

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we're going to be reading out 30

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tricky

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keep score as you go keep score as you

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go and see how your skeptical knowledge

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fares

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and helping me with the quiz this week

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is adrian hill

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and i think it was such a success when

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we did the skeptical trivia online for

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skeptics in the pub with the help of

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lara benham behind the scenes making it

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all happen

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really she takes most of the credit

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uh i think we'll be doing it again

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probably in uh maybe around the middle

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of the year was a lot of fun

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and the winner

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remains a mystery

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then the uh

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the winner was anonymous so

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we can only wonder

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who that was

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following the trivia quiz

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the trove segment this week looks at

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power balance the power balance

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wristband fad

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from the years or 2009 2010 2011 that

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which was

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incredibly successful for a short time

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before the whole house of cards came

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tumbling down

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when it was revealed

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skeptics knew all the time it was

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revealed that these power bands these

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increase your balance strength and

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flexibility were all a scam

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that wasn't a cat outside the window was

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but an interesting case study in

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and what people will believe and

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marketing and all sorts of things stay

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announcements from me but now it's time

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for me to shut my eyes

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dream of a nice beach side

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house with some japanese pancakes

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some nice red wine and some good times

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now as i mentioned at the top of the

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show within the last week at sydney

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skeptical trivia to kick off 2022

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and it was a great success thank you to

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everybody who participated

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if you're listening now

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you get to do it all over again but for

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here are the 30 skeptical

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trivia questions to test your skeptical

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week is none other than adrian hill

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and this is how it will work

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adrian will read out the question

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no cheating well you can if you like

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what am i going to do about it

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it's best if you don't cheat

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and so here we go 30 skeptical trivia

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question one

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question three former skeptic of the

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quote don't try to work out how

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question seven what james bond movie

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[Applause]

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the answer is d

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question 16

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what was the follow-up book to chariots

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of the gods

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is it a

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history is wrong

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b

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return to the stars

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c

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a rival of the gods

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or d

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war of the gods

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[Applause]

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the answer is b return to the stars

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question 17

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the patterson gimlin film features a

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glimpse of what famous cryptid

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is it a the loch ness monster

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b

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or d

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champ lake monster

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[Applause]

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the answer is b

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question 18 the founder of the church of

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scientology was l ron hubbard what does

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the l stand for

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is it a

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london

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b

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lexington

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c

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lafayette

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or d

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leonard

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the answer is c lafayette

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question 19

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is the author a mick west

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b

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c

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ben radford

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or d

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james randy

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[Music]

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the answer is a

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question 20 loch ness home of the

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monster is one of the longest lakes in

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britain how long is it

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is it a 24 kilometers

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b 40 kilometers

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c

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43 kilometers

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or d

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37 kilometers

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[Music]

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question 21 the assailing stones of

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racetrack playa in death valley are

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is it a new mexico

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b

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california

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c

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arizona

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or d

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nevada

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[Music]

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california question 22

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jay-z knight claimed to channel what

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ancient spirit

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is it a

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ramtha

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b

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king arthur

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c

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or d

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cleopatra

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[Music]

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the answer is a ramtha

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question 23 the nazca lines geolifts in

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the desert are found in wet south

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american country

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is it

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a

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chile

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b

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ecuador

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c

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peru

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or d

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bogota

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[Music]

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question 24 the one the search for

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australia's most gifted psychic aired on

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what tv network

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was it a

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sbs network

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b the 10 network

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c the 9 network

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or d

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the 7 network

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[Applause]

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the answer is d

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question 25 taciography is the claimed

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paranormal ability to do what

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is it a

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see the future in a crystal ball b

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read tea leaves

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c read the bumps on the head

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or d

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see the future in the clouds

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[Music]

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question 26

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australian-born ken ham is a long-time

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is it a ufos

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b homeopathy

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c

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or d

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free energy machines

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[Music]

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question 27

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according to ufo proponents in what year

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did an alien spaceship crash near

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roswell new mexico

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was the year a

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1947

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b

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1950

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c

431
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1949

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or d

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1951

434
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[Music]

435
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question 28 the great seer nostradamus

436
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wrote his books in what century

437
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is it a the 14th century

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b

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the 17th century

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see the 16th century

441
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or d the 15th century

442
00:24:12,710 --> 00:24:10,880
[Music]

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the answer is c

444
00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:20,390
question 29 who is the only person to

445
00:24:25,669 --> 00:24:24,400
win the bent spoon award more than once

446
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is it a

447
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pete evans

448
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b

449
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:30,400
fran sheffield

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c

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peter brook

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00:24:35,460 --> 00:24:33,600
or d

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meryl dorey

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[Music]

455
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[Applause]

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[Music]

457
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i know the answer to this one

458
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[Laughter]

459
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the answer is a

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question 30 wilhelm reich who died in

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prison in the 1950s sold quack devices

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is it a g

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energy

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b

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reiki energy

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c

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oregon energy

468
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or d

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scalar energy

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[Music]

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the answer is c

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[Music]

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00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:55,840
well there we go and thank you very much

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adrian hill for reading out those

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questions 30 questions i hope you were

476
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keeping score by yourself at home or

477
00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:05,279
with your friends how did you do

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how did you do if you've got more than

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15 correct well done if you got more

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than 20 correct very well done

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if you have more than 25

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correct you should have my job and if

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you have 30 correct

484
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you've probably heard these before

485
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:29,590
and please join us for sydney skeptics

486
00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:31,919
in the pub the first thursday of every

487
00:26:37,190 --> 00:26:34,320
month here in sydney and online when

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00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:37,200
necessary and it seems necessary at the

489
00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:39,760
moment for more information about that

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00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:43,440
just go to meetup.com and look for aust

491
00:27:06,230 --> 00:26:45,650
skeptics

492
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:08,549
dr harriet hall md

493
00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:11,360
known to thousands as the skeptoc a

494
00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:13,919
retired family physician and former air

495
00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:15,600
force flight surgeon

496
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:17,919
she writes about medicine so-called

497
00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:20,399
complementary and alternative medicine

498
00:27:26,549 --> 00:27:24,080
science quackery and critical thinking

499
00:27:29,110 --> 00:27:26,559
harriet now has a free course a series

500
00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:29,120
of 10 video lectures on science-based

501
00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:32,000
medicine and alternative medicine

502
00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:34,000
the videos and an accompanying course

503
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:36,240
guide can be found by following the link

504
00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:40,080
at skip doc dot info or by visiting

505
00:27:47,669 --> 00:27:43,039
web.randy.org

506
00:27:49,990 --> 00:27:47,679
educational dash modules dot html

507
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:50,000
topics covered in the series are

508
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:51,840
science-based medicine versus

509
00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:53,600
evidence-based medicine

510
00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:55,039
what is cam

511
00:28:01,430 --> 00:27:58,559
chiropractic acupuncture homeopathy

512
00:28:04,070 --> 00:28:01,440
naturopathy and herbal medicine energy

513
00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:04,080
medicine miscellaneous alternatives

514
00:28:10,630 --> 00:28:07,039
pitfalls in research and science-based

515
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:10,640
medicine in the media and politics

516
00:28:14,950 --> 00:28:12,480
harriet covers each topic in a

517
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:14,960
matter-of-fact no-nonsense way that's

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00:28:21,810 --> 00:28:17,600
sure to educate and entertain

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00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:21,820
skeptdoc dot info

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00:28:46,389 --> 00:28:44,399
[Music]

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00:28:47,669 --> 00:28:46,399
now it's time once again to head to

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00:28:50,710 --> 00:28:47,679
those pages at trove at

523
00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:52,310
the online resource for australian

524
00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:55,039
newspapers digitized going back for

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00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:57,440
decades and decades and even into some

526
00:29:01,669 --> 00:28:59,039
previous centuries

527
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:01,679
what a treasure trove it is and what a

528
00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:03,919
treasure trove it has been for the

529
00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:05,600
skeptic zone

530
00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:07,279
so many interesting

531
00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:10,559
historical articles to look up yet today

532
00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:13,279
we're not going so far back in history

533
00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:15,600
only about a decade or so

534
00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:17,360
and we're going to look at references to

535
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:19,039
the infamous

536
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:22,330
power balance wristband

537
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:28,080
[Music]

538
00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:30,480
i doubt some of you remember the power

539
00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:33,200
balance wristband and its

540
00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:36,159
knockoffs its clones its imitation

541
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:38,559
from around the world these were

542
00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:41,440
silicon rubber little bands you slipped

543
00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:44,159
on your wrist they had a hologram

544
00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:46,080
much like the hologram you see on credit

545
00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:48,000
cards i'm going to give you a big

546
00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:49,600
spoiler here it turned out to be a

547
00:29:51,669 --> 00:29:50,640
massive

548
00:29:52,870 --> 00:29:51,679
scam

549
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:52,880
a con

550
00:29:57,269 --> 00:29:55,440
but let's look quickly at wikipedia

551
00:30:02,389 --> 00:29:57,279
power balance

552
00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:02,399
hologram bracelets claimed by its

553
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:05,360
manufacturers and vendors to use quote

554
00:30:10,710 --> 00:30:08,399
holographic technology end quote

555
00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:10,720
to quote resonate

556
00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:13,120
and respond with the natural energy

557
00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:15,360
field of the body end quote

558
00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:18,399
and increase sporting ability

559
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:20,240
numerous independent studies of the

560
00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:23,600
device found it to be no more effective

561
00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:25,279
than placebo

562
00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:28,000
for enhancing athletic performance and

563
00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:30,480
the manufacturer was forced by the acc

564
00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:35,760
to retract any previous claims in 2010

565
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:37,600
the product was originally promoted at

566
00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:40,240
trade shows at the beginning of 2006

567
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:43,600
utilizing applied kinesiology

568
00:30:48,830 --> 00:30:45,520
and that's a well-known

569
00:30:51,430 --> 00:30:48,840
form of quackery as its most

570
00:30:54,230 --> 00:30:51,440
effective sales tool

571
00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:54,240
the bracelets went on sale in 2007 and

572
00:30:59,909 --> 00:30:57,360
had several celebrity endorsements

573
00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:59,919
they had become a trend among high

574
00:31:03,669 --> 00:31:00,960
school

575
00:31:07,509 --> 00:31:03,679
collegiate and professional sports

576
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:07,519
between 2008 and 2012 although bands are

577
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:10,640
regularly cited on athletes today

578
00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:14,000
those five years were the biggest boom

579
00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:15,519
for power balance

580
00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:18,000
it goes on power balance headquarters

581
00:31:23,269 --> 00:31:20,960
which was located in laguna niguel

582
00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:23,279
california at the time denied that they

583
00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:25,440
made any medical or scientific claims

584
00:31:28,549 --> 00:31:27,360
about their products now

585
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:28,559
years ago

586
00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:30,640
a decade or so ago

587
00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:33,600
brian dunning from skeptoid and i

588
00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:35,440
drove over to the power balance

589
00:31:41,909 --> 00:31:38,640
headquarters at laguna niguel

590
00:31:43,029 --> 00:31:41,919
and we were too um chicken to go inside

591
00:31:44,789 --> 00:31:43,039
and and

592
00:31:46,870 --> 00:31:44,799
confront them and we actually we thought

593
00:31:49,029 --> 00:31:46,880
there'd be no point what's the point

594
00:31:51,509 --> 00:31:49,039
uh i think we had some photographs taken

595
00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:51,519
out the front of their office cheesy

596
00:31:54,149 --> 00:31:53,120
smiles to the camera or something like

597
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:54,159
that

598
00:32:03,669 --> 00:32:00,480
it was uh action taken here

599
00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:03,679
in australia that i think had a huge

600
00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:06,159
impact in the downfall of power balance

601
00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:08,640
and you know i can take a small

602
00:32:15,029 --> 00:32:11,120
measure of credit in that downfall so in

603
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:15,039
late november or early december 2009 the

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today tonight tabloid tv program here in

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australia featured a story about power

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00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:21,519
balance wristbands

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00:32:25,669 --> 00:32:24,240
and it was pretty positive

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the

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kinesiology tricks

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00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:35,200
and it was a very positive report i saw

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00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:36,720
this report

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00:32:41,430 --> 00:32:39,039
and i i know i know the tricks of

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00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:41,440
applied kinesiology so i wrote

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00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:43,760
emailed the producer and said if you'd

615
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:45,360
like to have me on i could show you how

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00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:47,440
the tricks work

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00:32:53,669 --> 00:32:50,480
they did within a week i was on a plane

618
00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:53,679
to adelaide where i filmed the segment

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00:32:56,950 --> 00:32:55,600
with the crew

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00:33:02,230 --> 00:32:56,960
and

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00:33:04,389 --> 00:33:02,240
was the um the head of power balance

622
00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:04,399
australia at the time

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00:33:09,909 --> 00:33:07,679
and it says even says here in wikipedia

624
00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:09,919
in december 2009 an informal double

625
00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:11,840
blind test was performed on the

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00:33:15,430 --> 00:33:13,679
australian television program today

627
00:33:17,029 --> 00:33:15,440
tonight led by richard saunders from

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00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:17,039
australian skeptics

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00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:19,279
the results showed strong evidence that

630
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:21,760
any effect of the holograms is too small

631
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:23,519
to measure against the placebo effect

632
00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:25,440
well yes more or less

633
00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:27,760
we performed a series of tests

634
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:30,480
where tom o'dowd was

635
00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:33,360
given a lineup of people one of whom

636
00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:36,000
had the real device about their person

637
00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:38,880
and he did these applied kinesiology

638
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:42,000
tests and test after test after test he

639
00:33:47,110 --> 00:33:45,120
could not tell which person had the real

640
00:33:49,750 --> 00:33:47,120
power balance device

641
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:49,760
as opposed to uh dummy cards we had as

642
00:33:57,590 --> 00:33:54,240
well it was a pretty um spectacular fail

643
00:34:01,029 --> 00:33:57,600
and i i think that in part led to

644
00:34:02,389 --> 00:34:01,039
later on the uh australian authorities

645
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:02,399
um

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00:34:08,230 --> 00:34:05,200
taking the company to task this is a

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00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:08,240
very lengthy article it says here in

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00:34:13,589 --> 00:34:10,879
december 2010 the australian competition

649
00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:13,599
and consumer commission a triple c

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00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:15,599
obtained from power balance australia

651
00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:18,720
proprietary limited an undertaking to

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00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:21,599
take a number of actions in relation to

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correcting their misleading advertising

654
00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:26,560
and they had to produce in newspapers

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00:34:28,790 --> 00:34:27,760
and so on

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00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:28,800
um

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00:34:33,750 --> 00:34:31,440
retractions and apologies and so on in

658
00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:33,760
november 2011 power balance filed for

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bankruptcy after suffering a net loss of

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00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:39,760
more than 9 million that year

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00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:41,599
but let's see

662
00:34:50,149 --> 00:34:44,639
what was reported in the newspapers

663
00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:50,159
at the time about a decade or so ago

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00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:51,919
now i was surprised to see that there

665
00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:54,000
were quite a lot of returns when i'm

666
00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:55,679
looking for power balance

667
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:58,640
and i've also raided my own archives

668
00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:01,040
i made at the time of various newspaper

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00:35:06,870 --> 00:35:04,880
reports but here's a report by

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00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:06,880
nick walshaw

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00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:12,320
of the daily telegraph published in 2010

672
00:35:17,670 --> 00:35:15,359
on the 11th of june

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00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:17,680
i'm not wearing one of those things no

674
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:19,680
way this is how the power balance

675
00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:22,000
wristbands was welcomed into new south

676
00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:24,480
wales origin camp this week

677
00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:26,880
now just as an aside for international

678
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:29,440
listeners origin is um

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00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:31,520
it's a football competition here in

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00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:34,160
australia held in the middle of winter

681
00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:36,320
a three match series played between new

682
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:38,400
south wales rugby league and queensland

683
00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:39,920
rugby league

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00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:41,200
we go on

685
00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:44,720
it was laughed off by one senior blue

686
00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:47,440
oh and blue is the new south wales team

687
00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:49,440
who felt he put too many years into

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00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:52,800
running shuttles benching iron

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00:35:56,470 --> 00:35:55,200
to shove all faith into some rubbery

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00:35:58,230 --> 00:35:56,480
trinket

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00:36:01,750 --> 00:35:58,240
at which point blue's wrestling coach

692
00:36:04,870 --> 00:36:01,760
john donohue extended his hand

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00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:04,880
with said sky blue bracelet

694
00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:07,440
simply shrugged and said

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00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:09,119
you have to wear it mate they're a

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00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:10,480
sponsor

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00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:12,640
yep this is the humorous truth behind

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00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:16,000
australia's latest sporting fad

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00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:18,720
the reality of a wristband now dropping

700
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:20,720
on mass off the same production line

701
00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:22,880
that gave us torpedo pants and nasal

702
00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:23,920
strips

703
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:28,240
reebok pumps and lemon detox diet

704
00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:30,880
afl in western sydney

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00:36:36,150 --> 00:36:32,480
peter brock

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00:36:37,750 --> 00:36:36,160
had the crystals for his commodore

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00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:37,760
dk lily

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00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:41,040
an aluminium bat goes on to say

709
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:44,720
some sixty dollars of silicon that since

710
00:36:49,990 --> 00:36:47,040
being discovered someone ironically in a

711
00:36:52,790 --> 00:36:50,000
south coast pro shop by west tiger's

712
00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:52,800
prankster bo ryan it has spread

713
00:36:56,870 --> 00:36:56,000
throughout every nrl club and now into

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00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:56,880
the

715
00:37:02,069 --> 00:36:59,920
origin arena only last week power

716
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:02,079
balance employees conducted a series of

717
00:37:07,109 --> 00:37:04,960
tests on every tiger's player before

718
00:37:08,790 --> 00:37:07,119
individually fitting those wristbands

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00:37:12,670 --> 00:37:08,800
said to increase power speed and

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00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:12,680
flexibility to improve core strength by

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00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:14,720
500 percent

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00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:17,520
like an ab cruncher without well the

723
00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:20,160
crunching goes on to say indeed power

724
00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:24,000
balance ceo tom o'dowd stressed that

725
00:37:29,349 --> 00:37:26,880
outside a website spiel about holograms

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00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:29,359
embedded with positive frequencies

727
00:37:34,790 --> 00:37:32,640
little can also be revealed about his

728
00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:34,800
product because nobody wants to give

729
00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:37,040
away their secrets and the marketplace

730
00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:39,520
is already flooded with cheap fakes

731
00:37:43,990 --> 00:37:42,240
not all the blues however will wear them

732
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:44,000
like our veteran who just before the

733
00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:46,079
official team photo protested along the

734
00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:49,680
lines of an nrl coordinator who insists

735
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:50,640
that

736
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:53,920
they quote merely satisfy

737
00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:57,839
quick fix needs of gen y then quote

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00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:00,160
another labeled them dubious while

739
00:38:06,310 --> 00:38:03,520
canterbury coordinator tom grimaldi said

740
00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:06,320
none of his players wear them a few

741
00:38:12,390 --> 00:38:09,680
weeks back we had two grimaldi shrugs

742
00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:12,400
but they did nothing so the boys chuck

743
00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:14,640
them and this just goes to illustrate

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00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:16,160
how

745
00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:17,280
important

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00:38:23,109 --> 00:38:20,320
promoting these bands were at the time

747
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:23,119
of sporting teams so free samples were

748
00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:25,119
sent to sporting teams

749
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:27,920
players wore them and um

750
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:29,920
they got a lot of free publicity that

751
00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:31,200
way

752
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:32,880
now we come to a report in the sydney

753
00:38:39,030 --> 00:38:36,560
morning herald dated the 24th of

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00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:39,040
june 2010

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00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:40,800
the power of one

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00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:43,599
banned claims to be tackled by health

757
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:45,040
regulator

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00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:47,760
by nikki phillips science

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00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:51,040
a sports product endorsed by nrl and afl

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00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:53,280
players may be investigated by the

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00:38:56,710 --> 00:38:55,280
national health regulator after it

762
00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:56,720
received a complaint that the

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00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:00,079
manufacturer is making bogus medical

764
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:03,280
claims power balance wristbands marketed

765
00:39:07,589 --> 00:39:04,800
as being able to

766
00:39:08,790 --> 00:39:07,599
instantly improve strength flexibility

767
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:08,800
and balance

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00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:11,520
adorn the wrists of many of australia's

769
00:39:18,069 --> 00:39:14,720
top athletes including afl player

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00:39:20,950 --> 00:39:18,079
brendan favala and nrl players

771
00:39:23,109 --> 00:39:20,960
timana tohu and benji marshall

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00:39:25,030 --> 00:39:23,119
the bands which are made of silicon

773
00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:25,040
contain a small hologram which the

774
00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:28,480
distributors claim is quote embedded

775
00:39:34,150 --> 00:39:30,720
with frequencies that react positively

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00:39:35,670 --> 00:39:34,160
with your body's natural energy field

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00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:35,680
end quote

778
00:39:39,510 --> 00:39:37,760
and if you ever need an example of word

779
00:39:41,829 --> 00:39:39,520
salad that was it

780
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:41,839
the therapeutics goods administration

781
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:43,520
rejected initial concerns about the

782
00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:45,280
product saying the bans were not

783
00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:47,040
registered with the administration

784
00:39:51,910 --> 00:39:48,720
because they do not meet the definition

785
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:51,920
of a medical device or therapeutic good

786
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:54,640
but dr ken harvey a public health

787
00:39:59,030 --> 00:39:56,880
researcher at la trobe university said

788
00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:59,040
the distributor of power balance was

789
00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:01,280
making medical claims and breaking the

790
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:03,280
therapeutics goods act by not

791
00:40:07,349 --> 00:40:05,520
registering its product in his

792
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:07,359
submission to the administration's

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00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:11,040
complaint resolutions panel he said the

794
00:40:14,990 --> 00:40:13,200
bracelets also breached the tga's

795
00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:15,000
advertising code by making

796
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:17,839
unsubstantiated claims to date the

797
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:20,800
american manufacturer has not published

798
00:40:26,150 --> 00:40:23,680
a single peer-reviewed clinical study

799
00:40:28,390 --> 00:40:26,160
instead numerous celebrity endorsements

800
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:28,400
are displayed on the website if you look

801
00:40:33,670 --> 00:40:30,480
at the science behind the band it is

802
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:33,680
unstated unclear and unpublished said dr

803
00:40:38,150 --> 00:40:35,920
mark cohen a medical doctor and

804
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:38,160
associate professor of complementary

805
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:41,200
medicine at rmit university i am very

806
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:43,119
dubious of anything that is based on

807
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:45,680
anecdotes and testimonials

808
00:40:50,309 --> 00:40:48,000
and absolutely no scientific evidence

809
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:50,319
power balance claims the hologram in the

810
00:40:55,349 --> 00:40:52,000
center of the bracelet is made from

811
00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:55,359
mylar a polyester film treated with

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00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:56,240
quote

813
00:41:01,750 --> 00:40:58,960
energy waves at specific frequencies

814
00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:01,760
unquote the company said this interacted

815
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:03,440
with the quote

816
00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:06,240
body's natural energy flow end quote to

817
00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:09,520
improve strength balance and flexibility

818
00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:12,240
dr cohen said the term natural energy

819
00:41:17,109 --> 00:41:14,800
flow was often referred in eastern

820
00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:17,119
chinese medicine as the acupuncture

821
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:19,200
meridian or chi

822
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:21,440
while all living cells give off small

823
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:23,839
electrical impulses it had never been

824
00:41:28,550 --> 00:41:26,160
proven that what flows through the

825
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:28,560
acupuncture meridian was electrical

826
00:41:31,349 --> 00:41:29,680
energy

827
00:41:33,430 --> 00:41:31,359
i'll just say here let's remember

828
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:33,440
hyman's maxim

829
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:36,160
before trying to determine how something

830
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:39,040
works discover if it works so by saying

831
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:41,760
it had never been proven that

832
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:43,680
what flows through the acupuncture

833
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:44,720
meridian

834
00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:46,480
well first of all it's never been proven

835
00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:49,040
that there are acupuncture meridians and

836
00:41:51,750 --> 00:41:50,560
it's never been proven that anything

837
00:41:54,470 --> 00:41:51,760
flows

838
00:41:56,790 --> 00:41:54,480
there regardless we read on

839
00:41:59,829 --> 00:41:56,800
a rigorous scientific study to test the

840
00:42:00,710 --> 00:41:59,839
claims could be easily set up dr cohen

841
00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:00,720
said

842
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:03,520
you just need a placebo band and a power

843
00:42:07,109 --> 00:42:05,760
balance band to see if the wearer is

844
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:07,119
stronger or not

845
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:08,880
the distributor tom o'dowd said

846
00:42:13,589 --> 00:42:11,280
customers would be requesting a refund

847
00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:13,599
if the technology didn't work

848
00:42:17,670 --> 00:42:15,200
in just a couple of points here i did

849
00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:17,680
that test on tv with to no doubt the

850
00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:20,000
double-blind test with a placebo it

851
00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:21,599
wasn't rigorous of course it wasn't a

852
00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:23,200
scientifically rigorous test but it was

853
00:42:26,950 --> 00:42:24,400
good enough

854
00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:26,960
and this point where tomorrow dallas

855
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:29,520
said customers would request a refund if

856
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:31,680
the product didn't work well often not

857
00:42:34,710 --> 00:42:32,400
no

858
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:34,720
and power balance is a great

859
00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:37,440
case study in that thousands of were

860
00:42:41,829 --> 00:42:40,480
sold it didn't work as we we know it

861
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:41,839
didn't work

862
00:42:45,349 --> 00:42:43,520
yet thousands of people were not

863
00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:45,359
requesting refunds

864
00:42:48,710 --> 00:42:47,040
either they just kept wearing it they

865
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:48,720
put it in the cupboard or forgot about

866
00:42:51,510 --> 00:42:50,000
it

867
00:42:53,670 --> 00:42:51,520
they didn't care

868
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:53,680
they didn't worry about it

869
00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:56,640
that is a great one used by quack saying

870
00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:59,280
that well this product

871
00:43:02,870 --> 00:43:01,520
offers a full refund well so what if it

872
00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:02,880
doesn't work in the

873
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:04,720
in the beginning

874
00:43:09,349 --> 00:43:06,160
and now from the sydney morning herald

875
00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:09,359
again dated the 20th of november 2010

876
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:11,760
therapeutic wristbands are not so

877
00:43:15,910 --> 00:43:12,960
therapeutic

878
00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:15,920
by nikki phillips technology

879
00:43:19,030 --> 00:43:17,839
the distributors of power balance

880
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:19,040
wristbands

881
00:43:22,950 --> 00:43:21,440
breached federal laws by falsely

882
00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:22,960
claiming they could improve people's

883
00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:25,599
fitness an independent review panel has

884
00:43:29,589 --> 00:43:26,880
found

885
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:29,599
the 60 bands contain a small hologram

886
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:31,680
which the owners claimed has been

887
00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:34,000
embedded with frequencies that react

888
00:43:38,870 --> 00:43:35,920
positively with the body's natural

889
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energy field to improve balance stamina

890
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:40,560
and flexibility

891
00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:42,880
during the past year the silicon bands

892
00:43:47,109 --> 00:43:45,200
have adorned the wrists of many

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00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:47,119
well-known australian athletes including

894
00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:51,040
afl player brendan fivola and nrl player

895
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:53,359
benji marshall the panel which reviews

896
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:54,880
complaints about breaches of the

897
00:43:59,030 --> 00:43:57,200
therapeutics goods advertising code

898
00:44:01,430 --> 00:43:59,040
found some websites including

899
00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:01,440
powerbalance.com.eu

900
00:44:06,470 --> 00:44:04,319
violated the code by publishing

901
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:06,480
advertisements that suggested the bans

902
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:09,359
were therapeutic in australia any

903
00:44:13,829 --> 00:44:11,440
product that claims to have therapeutic

904
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:13,839
use must be included on the australian

905
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:16,720
register of therapeutic goods where

906
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:18,880
medicines and medical devices are

907
00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:20,960
assessed based on their risk to the

908
00:44:25,589 --> 00:44:23,440
public the complaints resolution panel

909
00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:25,599
said because the advertisements

910
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:28,079
suggested the bans were therapeutic

911
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:30,480
their proposed benefits were misleading

912
00:44:35,589 --> 00:44:33,599
aroused unwarranted expectation about

913
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:35,599
their effectiveness and provided no

914
00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:38,560
evidence to support their claims the

915
00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:40,960
panel asked power balance australia

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00:44:45,430 --> 00:44:42,960
which distributes the band on behalf of

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00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:45,440
the us manufacturer and

918
00:44:51,190 --> 00:44:47,839
other websites promoting the bands to

919
00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:51,200
withdraw their advertisements

920
00:44:56,630 --> 00:44:54,079
they also required any advertisements

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00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:56,640
claiming the ban could restore balance

922
00:45:02,309 --> 00:44:59,520
and equilibrium increase stamina and

923
00:45:03,589 --> 00:45:02,319
improve recovery and flexibility be

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00:45:05,829 --> 00:45:03,599
withdrawn

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00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:05,839
in response power balance acknowledged

926
00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:07,920
it had breached the code

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00:45:12,230 --> 00:45:09,920
since the time of the complaint the

928
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:12,240
relevant claims have been removed from

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00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:14,400
the website it said

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00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:16,960
ken harvey a public health physician at

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00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:18,560
la trobe university who made the

932
00:45:23,349 --> 00:45:20,880
original complaint to the panel said

933
00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:23,359
that despite the finding against power

934
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:25,680
balance the panel had no powers to

935
00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:27,599
implement sanctions

936
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:31,280
sponsors or advertisers in the know

937
00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:34,240
knowing this panel has no power thumb

938
00:45:39,910 --> 00:45:37,599
their nose and do nothing he said

939
00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:39,920
the panel which meets only once a month

940
00:45:43,589 --> 00:45:42,480
was always overloaded with complaints he

941
00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:43,599
said

942
00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:46,319
the therapeutic goods administration did

943
00:45:50,390 --> 00:45:48,160
not agree with the findings saying it

944
00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:50,400
did not believe the wristbands were a

945
00:45:55,270 --> 00:45:52,480
therapeutic good as defined by the

946
00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:55,280
therapeutic goods act

947
00:45:59,910 --> 00:45:56,800
there are a number of products on the

948
00:46:02,550 --> 00:45:59,920
market that make claims that may not be

949
00:46:04,550 --> 00:46:02,560
capable of being substantiated however

950
00:46:06,390 --> 00:46:04,560
such claims do not necessarily make

951
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:06,400
these products therapeutic goods as

952
00:46:11,349 --> 00:46:09,040
defined by the therapeutics goods act a

953
00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:11,359
spokeswoman said

954
00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:13,680
and yes a big shout out to ken harvey

955
00:46:19,109 --> 00:46:16,480
what a champion of uh

956
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:19,119
health he is and

957
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:21,440
a tireless campaigner in the fight

958
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:24,480
against quackery like this device

959
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:26,800
and let's round this off with a

960
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:28,400
couple of letters to the editor of the

961
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sydney morning herald which appeared on

962
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:34,800
the 24th of december 2010

963
00:46:38,069 --> 00:46:36,240
and there's a little cartoon

964
00:46:40,829 --> 00:46:38,079
accompanying this page

965
00:46:45,030 --> 00:46:40,839
with a man behind a little

966
00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:45,040
table selling these bands at 50 each

967
00:46:51,109 --> 00:46:48,319
and he says bracelets get your anti-scam

968
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:51,119
bracelets here protection against

969
00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:52,400
fraudsters

970
00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:54,160
first letter says

971
00:46:59,829 --> 00:46:57,280
power imbalance goes against gullible

972
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:59,839
now that the power balance bunkum has

973
00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:01,040
been blown

974
00:47:04,870 --> 00:47:02,640
perhaps the australian competition and

975
00:47:06,990 --> 00:47:04,880
consumer commission could turn its

976
00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:07,000
attention to the myriad other

977
00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:09,440
pseudo-scientific scams bilking the

978
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:11,440
public how about sending a few

979
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:14,319
investigators to that charlatans loving

980
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:18,079
the mind body spirit festival and see if

981
00:47:23,510 --> 00:47:20,880
those peddlers of pricey

982
00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:23,520
piffle can justify their outlandish

983
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:24,480
claims

984
00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:26,319
and that was written by

985
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:27,920
jeff saunders

986
00:47:34,549 --> 00:47:32,319
jamboree who happens to be my brother

987
00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:34,559
and the next letter says

988
00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:37,200
i thought power balance bans were a

989
00:47:42,630 --> 00:47:39,839
great idea they allowed me to instantly

990
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:42,640
identify stupid and gullible people

991
00:47:49,130 --> 00:47:44,880
a bit mean-hearted there from david

992
00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:50,630
[Music]

993
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:52,480
there we go some of the

994
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:55,200
interesting media reports of the time of

995
00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:57,680
power balance and you can still buy

996
00:48:02,069 --> 00:48:00,160
similar products but the heyday

997
00:48:04,630 --> 00:48:02,079
when it was a really big fad and there

998
00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:04,640
were lots of knockoffs and clones and

999
00:48:08,549 --> 00:48:06,720
people jumping on the bandwagon at the

1000
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:08,559
time there must have been millions of

1001
00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:09,839
these things made

1002
00:48:13,829 --> 00:48:11,520
at some stage or other in the following

1003
00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:13,839
years i found a barrel full of them

1004
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:16,000
being sold for three dollars each at the

1005
00:48:19,589 --> 00:48:17,920
reverse garbage store here in sydney

1006
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:19,599
which sells

1007
00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:20,400
things

1008
00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:23,119
at the end of the line or or what not

1009
00:48:29,589 --> 00:48:26,240
power balance wristbands a case study in

1010
00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:29,599
quackery frauds cons investigations an

1011
00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:32,319
action being taken and a lot of credit

1012
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:34,960
of course goes to ken harvey for his

1013
00:48:38,549 --> 00:48:36,559
tireless work

1014
00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:38,559
but for me personally

1015
00:48:43,510 --> 00:48:41,359
it was uh quite an event

1016
00:48:45,190 --> 00:48:43,520
to do those blind double-blind tests

1017
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:45,200
with the manufacturer or i should say

1018
00:48:51,250 --> 00:48:48,480
the the distributor here in australia

1019
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:51,260
on national television

1020
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:53,280
[Music]

1021
00:48:57,670 --> 00:48:55,680
yes i'll link to that report that tv

1022
00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:57,680
report in this week's show notes

1023
00:49:00,829 --> 00:48:59,680
but you don't need a link to visit trove

1024
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:00,839
at

1025
00:49:05,670 --> 00:49:03,520
trove.nla.gov dot a u

1026
00:49:08,970 --> 00:49:05,680
put in your search and you never know

1027
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:08,980
what you'll find

1028
00:49:36,069 --> 00:49:35,190
thank you for listening to the skeptic

1029
00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:36,079
zone

1030
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:38,480
at the time of recording which is sunday

1031
00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:42,000
morning the 9th here in sydney australia

1032
00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:45,280
i do not yet know today's covert numbers

1033
00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:47,200
for new south wales but in the last week

1034
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:48,880
they have shot up

1035
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:51,760
uh by leaps and bounds and media were

1036
00:49:56,790 --> 00:49:54,000
using terms like skyrocketing an

1037
00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:56,800
explosion of cases and

1038
00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:59,359
yesterday uh if i remember correctly it

1039
00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:00,160
was

1040
00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:02,720
45 000

1041
00:50:06,549 --> 00:50:04,079
cases plus

1042
00:50:08,710 --> 00:50:06,559
in the state of victoria it was 50 000

1043
00:50:10,549 --> 00:50:08,720
cases plus

1044
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:10,559
who knows who knows what it will be

1045
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:12,960
today to all my listeners around the

1046
00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:15,440
world but particularly in australia

1047
00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:17,520
i don't know what to say just continue

1048
00:50:22,069 --> 00:50:20,480
to take care i had my booster about four

1049
00:50:23,750 --> 00:50:22,079
days ago

1050
00:50:26,230 --> 00:50:23,760
it was uh

1051
00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:26,240
moderna whereas before my first two

1052
00:50:31,270 --> 00:50:28,559
shots were astrazeneca and i had

1053
00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:31,280
extremely mild little reactions felt a

1054
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:33,599
bit unwell and then was absolutely fine

1055
00:50:38,069 --> 00:50:36,000
moderna was a bit more

1056
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:38,079
a bit more severe in the reaction my arm

1057
00:50:42,549 --> 00:50:40,480
was very sore and for about

1058
00:50:45,430 --> 00:50:42,559
oh i don't know maybe

1059
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:45,440
maybe 24 hours or so i was feeling

1060
00:50:48,150 --> 00:50:46,400
uh

1061
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:48,160
unwell

1062
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:49,760
but it passes

1063
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:52,160
and i know then that

1064
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:54,640
those little antibodies in my body are

1065
00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:56,160
doing their job

1066
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:57,839
even though the numbers are skyrocketing

1067
00:51:01,109 --> 00:50:59,040
of course

1068
00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:01,119
we should all still uh maintain our

1069
00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:03,440
schedule of vaccination

1070
00:51:08,069 --> 00:51:05,440
coming up on next week's show

1071
00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:08,079
the trove segment or look at that

1072
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:10,400
evergreen of skepticism

1073
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:12,319
crop circles

1074
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:14,960
but before i go thank you once again

1075
00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:16,800
uh sincerely to those wonderful people

1076
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who subscribe to the skeptic zone with

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1081
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1082
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1083
00:51:34,470 --> 00:51:31,359
needless to say once again my other

1084
00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:34,480
sources of income have taken a dive

1085
00:51:39,109 --> 00:51:36,880
uh i think partly because

1086
00:51:40,710 --> 00:51:39,119
many people who would normally uh take

1087
00:51:43,990 --> 00:51:40,720
part in the entertainment industry in

1088
00:51:45,349 --> 00:51:44,000
the film industry tvs that sort of thing

1089
00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:45,359
they're getting sick with covert and

1090
00:51:49,109 --> 00:51:46,880
they can't turn up to work i'm sure

1091
00:51:51,589 --> 00:51:49,119
there's lots of productions and tv

1092
00:51:55,829 --> 00:51:51,599
productions uh movie productions and and

1093
00:51:59,430 --> 00:51:55,839
such being put on hold delayed cancelled

1094
00:52:02,230 --> 00:51:59,440
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1095
00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:02,240
i appreciate those people who contribute

1096
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1097
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producing the show every week

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1101
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1112
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